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PostSubject: Re: What are You Listening to Right Now?   Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:27 pm

I really liked "Minutes to Midnight". I prefer their change of style on that album, than what they did on " A Thousand Suns".
"Giving Up" is on of my favorite songs by them. That song just rocks. And like you said, I liked how Mike sang more on "Minutes to Midnight". I also liked "New Divide as well. I felt it fit right in with the sound they had going for "Minutes to Midnight".

Their best album though will always be "Hybrid Theory" to me. I played that CD to death when it first came out.
My all time favorite song by Linkin Park is "A Place For My Head". I love the guitar riff, and the way Chester sings in that song is awesome. Whats your favorite song by them?
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PostSubject: Re: What are You Listening to Right Now?   Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:21 pm

I went back to take a listen to some of their older stuff to try and figure out what my fave would be, and I realized that I phrased it wrong. I don't think Minutes to Midnight is a bad album at all, in fact I really like it - but not for Linkin Park. For the most part it's feels to me like a rock album that happened to have the Linkin Park guys in it...it might as well be a "Dead by Sunrise" record. They got rid of what made them unique, the DJ and synthesizer stuff, the nu-metal sound, the rapping from Mike...it was just rock. Now, it was a solid rock album, and I liked a lot of it. Like I said I liked Mike's singing (although I'd prefer him to rap) and they have a good rock sound, I just missed their unique sound. It's not that I want them to keep putting out the same stuff though, but even if they got rid of all the electronic stuff and just had a more stripped Rock/Rap album, I could see it being better for me.

If I had to pick a favorite song, I'd go with either Points of Authority or Breaking the Habit...those have always been two of my faves. Although I really like Nobody's Listening too. And from Minutes to Midnight, it's either Bleed it Out or No More Sorrow.

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PostSubject: Re: What are You Listening to Right Now?   Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:57 pm

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I think so, yeah - and a lot of people like it. I can't blame you; I liked a song or two on their last album, but I hated that they went straight rock; they cut out all the stuff that made them unique. But now they're closer to their old stuff, but they experiment with some new sounds too. If you haven't heard it yet, I put the first single from their new album below; the video looks pretty cool too...



But the second single's a little different;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qF_qbaWt3Q

As someone who knows old school LP, I'm really interested to hear what you think of their new stuff. All I can say is, I love it 100% more than the last one.

-Gary
Wow. That second video and song, "Waiting For the End" gave me goosebumps. It was beautiful. I bought "Minutes to Midnight" and completely hated it. I debated on throwing away the CD. but the previous video to "Waiting for the End" is a definite no to me. I had no idea what that was. It wasn't them. Definitely not their "root" stuff. But the second song really felt like their previous work, a bit different, but at least they are trying.
I'm a little uneasy on buying any more albums by them, because they have changed with their sound as well as look, immensely. They used to be individuals, adding to the band with their own individualistic sound and idea. Now it seems like they are being told what to wear and how to sound.
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PostSubject: Re: What are You Listening to Right Now?   Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:15 pm

Interestingly, you mentioned you feel like they're kinda being told what to do and that made me think of one of Mike's "Fort Minor" songs, I dunno if you've heard it, called "Get Me Gone". It talks about how once Linkin Park was signed they tried to change them into a straight rock band and make a bunch of changes. Here's the lyrics, it's pretty interesting (the first and last paragraphs are spoken, not part of the song);

The dude, he said that, like when we were making
The first Linkin Park record, he was like
"Yeah, you know, I don't know about the rapping like
I don't know if it's, like maybe you should just be a rock band"
You know what I mean, like trying to change us
Like they signed us as an act
Like what we sound like and then he's like
"Oh, I don't know, maybe you should just play keyboard"

Before the first song that you heard me on
There were people already tryin' to get me gone
Tellin' me to quit rapping, just play the keys
That my band had a singer, they didn't need me
But my band had my back, so we did the tracks
Put out the album and the talk went flat
It was funny at first but then the humor faded
When some magazines printed that our label made us

We were to be good to be true
Some were saying ghost writers were writin' all that we do
So we had to disprove it, we spelled it out to the detail how we do it
When we're making this music, after that I made it a rule
I only do e-mail responses to print interviews
Because these people love to put a twist to your words
To infer that you said something fucking absurd

Oh, did I lose you at infer?
Not used to hearing a verse that uses over first grade vocabulary words?
People used to infer that we were manufactured
Now I've got the interviews on file
Which people said what, which number to dial
So now every enemy screaming insanity
All they're ever gonna be's another big fan of me
Bitch

Ha ha ha, you believe that? Like that's crazy
Sounds crazy right? You're like this point, at this point you figure
You hear that and you're like, "That guy is out of his mind"
But honestly at that point, besides the fact that he wanted me
To just play keyboard or whatever, he didn't want me to rap
He was like maybe Joe Hahn should, um, wear a lab coat
And a cowboy hat on stage, like when we play
I swear to God he's crazy, it was crazy, cowboy hat, yeah
And later on he claimed that he wrote our
All our songs, so that was real nice

---------------------------------------------------

So I feel like if they didn't end up changing them back then, before they even had one album out, and now they're one of the biggest groups of all time, I'm pretty sure they don't really get told what to do now. I feel like they're really just experimenting and trying new stuff. Which I'm kinda iffy on, because while I understand that they don't want to just basically make the same album over and over again and want to try new things, I don't always like it as much (case in point, "Minutes to Midnight"). I think they're just evolving as a group. They started in the mid-90's, and Hybrid Theory came out in 2000, and Meteora in 2003 - and when I hear anything from Hybrid Theory (and to a lesser extent Meteora) I can definitely tell it's from that era. Plus, they were all 20-something kids whereas now they're in there mid thirties, several married with kids, so it makes sense that they're not going to be doing the same stuff they did in the 90's and early 2000's 10 years later.

The biggest thing for me though, why I think I like A Thousand Suns, is because I feel like while they're experimenting with other styles and ideas they are back to at least being individuals and doing what makes them unique again. They're not just doing straight rock, like Minutes to Midnight - they're using more of Mike's rapping skills and Joe's turntable/dj skills again, which makes me happy. I'm sorry to hear you don't like The Catalyst, that's one of my favorites from that album because it reminds me of Meteora. But I agree, Waiting for the End is a beautiful song - it actually reminds me of some of the stuff on Meteora, too.

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PostSubject: Re: What are You Listening to Right Now?   Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:04 pm

Yeah. I bought Fort Minor. I was young and really amped about it. I thought it was going to be promised, and I thought LP had broken up. But I know the song you listed. It's a good song. Mike has beautiful vocals, and what made me get into Linkin Park was that their sound was so unique. It wasn't another rap/rock group like Limp Bizkit (I enjoy a few selected song by them.). They were totally innovative and creative with their music. I loved it. They were angsty with a sense of class.

Man.. I loved Linkin Park. I think they made me who I am today (along with a few other variables.). My first "rock" CD. I wore Hybrid Theory out. And number 3 was scratched, so to this is very day, I still haven't listened to whatever song track 3 is on Hybrid Theory, which probably sounds bizarre. I loved their songs... then Meteora was just a gift from God. I loved every track that CD had, with the varied exception of "Nobody's Listening". It's a very different song. Methinks it's the lyrics. I love the indian-esque pipe flute.

I remember around the time of Minutes to Midnight, I heard rumors that their manager or was it their producer, wanted them to change their sound to more commercially-sounded music. And, ever since that album, I never really gave them a chance. I still buy their DVDs (They're mostly the golden days of touring around for Hybrid Theory.), but I still reside a special place in my heart for them. Chester has a a lot of kids, I believe. 2? Or was it 3? He's a busy man and Mike is does a lot of solo stuff. Mr. Hahn. Haha... I remember their make-up artist likes to call Mr. Hahn, Daddy Hahn. Funny stuff.


Anyone remember that album/compilation? I LOVED it. I loved it dearly. It was great. I'm not a huge fan or remixes or anything, but that album was beautiful with what those music artists did with it.
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PostSubject: Re: What are You Listening to Right Now?   Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:21 pm

I LOVE Reanimation! Such a great album...I like their Collision Course with Jay-Z too. Much like with their own stuff, they have an amazing way of mixing genres of music together and making it flow and sound so polished...it's really quite impressive. That's what I felt was lacking about Minutes to Midnight, but I never heard those rumors about the producers. I tend to assume that, like I said, since they weren't changed before their first album they probably weren't changed after they sold millions of records, but you never know. All I know is what I heard from interviews, where Chester was saying how they wanted to go to their "core" and do a straight rock album, without all of the other stuff (which makes them unique/awesome). All I remember was feeling bad for Joe and Mike, because I feel like they got kinda screwed on that album. But I do like Mike's singing voice, which is basically the only really GOOD thing that came out of Minutes to Midnight for me.

Anyways, I can understand your trepidation, but I thought A Thousand Suns was a vast improvement, and far closer to their original sound. They went from normal and bland to unique again, which is great. Although, if it bothers you, you should know that it is a concept album and as such there are clips of speeches and short instrumental interludes, and they experiment with some new genres/sounds (like you might have heard on that song "Waiting for the End", where Mike has almost a Reggae inflection on his rap), but overall I like it. Granted, I'm far more open to a wide variety of different genres and all that than most people are, so I understand that it's not for everyone :-)

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PostSubject: Re: What are You Listening to Right Now?   Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:14 am

I hate to say this, but I'll check out their album. I'll.... listen to it online, and if I really like it, I'll go out and buy it.
c:

I rarely accept recommendations when it comes to music! But you have me sold, sir!

You dug Reanimation too? It was a great compilation album. I, man, wore it out. Had to buy another CD because it got so scratched from me just taking it everywhere. And that Waiting for the End song has been stuck in my head today. It's a great song.. I just like how Mike explodes into the song with his lyrics.
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PostSubject: Re: What are You Listening to Right Now?   Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:23 am

Are there any songs out of the remix versions that you guys think are better than the original ? I really like the remix version of "With you" on Reanimation better than the original. They way Chester screams to open the song, and just how he sings it overall is better than the original I think.
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PostSubject: Re: What are You Listening to Right Now?   Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:27 am

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Are there any songs out of the remix versions that you guys think are better than the original ? I really like the remix version of "With you" on Reanimation better than the original. They way Chester screams to open the song, and just how he sings it overall is better than the original I think.
Ohh man, yes. It is. I get made fun of a lot, but this one website (it's safe, it just got a complete makeover too, looks pretty snazzy I must say.) http://hypem.com/#!/ , is a great site for remixed songs. I find a lot, not necessarily rap/hip hop songs, but a lot rock.

It's where I got for majority of my songs. They accumulate songs from bloggers all over the internet. Pretty nifty.
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PostSubject: Re: What are You Listening to Right Now?   Sun Dec 19, 2010 4:56 pm

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I hate to say this, but I'll check out their album. I'll.... listen to it online, and if I really like it, I'll go out and buy it.
c:

I rarely accept recommendations when it comes to music! But you have me sold, sir!

Haha, well now I REALLY hope you like it, otherwise my word will be moot from now on. But seriously, I'm interested to hear what you think. I feel like the album is more "Waiting for the End" than it is "Catalyst" like, so maybe you'll like it.

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J Knight5 wrote:
Are there any songs out of the remix versions that you guys think are better than the original ? I really like the remix version of "With you" on Reanimation better than the original. They way Chester screams to open the song, and just how he sings it overall is better than the original I think.
Ohh man, yes. It is.

I love that one, and there are a few other ones on there that I really like, the remixes of In the End, Place for My Head, One Step Closer, High Voltage and My December.

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PostSubject: Re: What are You Listening to Right Now?   Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:33 pm

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Fawks wrote:
I hate to say this, but I'll check out their album. I'll.... listen to it online, and if I really like it, I'll go out and buy it.
c:

I rarely accept recommendations when it comes to music! But you have me sold, sir!

Haha, well now I REALLY hope you like it, otherwise my word will be moot from now on. But seriously, I'm interested to hear what you think. I feel like the album is more "Waiting for the End" than it is "Catalyst" like, so maybe you'll like it.

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J Knight5 wrote:
Are there any songs out of the remix versions that you guys think are better than the original ? I really like the remix version of "With you" on Reanimation better than the original. They way Chester screams to open the song, and just how he sings it overall is better than the original I think.
Ohh man, yes. It is.

I love that one, and there are a few other ones on there that I really like, the remixes of In the End, Place for My Head, One Step Closer, High Voltage and My December.

-Gary
Alrighty then, I'll give you a review on it then whenever I get a chance to listen to it. Recently, my iTunes found a great radio station. I literally can not stop listening to it. It's grand.

I really admire the way they ended the album with "Krawling/Krwlng". It was pure symphonic and beautiful. I wish that album was more well known. I wonder why it went unnoticed to many people?
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PostSubject: Re: What are You Listening to Right Now?   Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:41 pm

I don't know...I guess because it was a remix album, rather than a normal record? That is odd...

Wait, iTunes can find radio stations?

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PostSubject: Re: What are You Listening to Right Now?   Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:57 am

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I don't know...I guess because it was a remix album, rather than a normal record? That is odd...

Wait, iTunes can find radio stations?

-Gary
I remember a long time ago, the radio did play a track off of Reanimation, which was funny because it was a notorious pop station that played all the Brittany Spears and whatnot. I thought it was a cool, brief change.

And yes! It does! To the left of your iTunes, inside that box panel where it says, "Library", "Store", "Genius", "Playlists", etc., under "Library" there is a "Radio" link, and when you click it, it gives you numerous genres, to limitless radio stations, without the fuzzy static. It's great. I've been listening to a Florida radio station for the past week.
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PostSubject: Re: What are You Listening to Right Now?   Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:11 am

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And yes! It does! To the left of your iTunes, inside that box panel where it says, "Library", "Store", "Genius", "Playlists", etc., under "Library" there is a "Radio" link, and when you click it, it gives you numerous genres, to limitless radio stations, without the fuzzy static. It's great. I've been listening to a Florida radio station for the past week.

Wait, there's a "Florida" radio station? As in the state I live in? That's a genre? haha

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PostSubject: Re: What are You Listening to Right Now?   Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:35 pm

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And yes! It does! To the left of your iTunes, inside that box panel where it says, "Library", "Store", "Genius", "Playlists", etc., under "Library" there is a "Radio" link, and when you click it, it gives you numerous genres, to limitless radio stations, without the fuzzy static. It's great. I've been listening to a Florida radio station for the past week.

Wait, there's a "Florida" radio station? As in the state I live in? That's a genre? haha

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Haha! You guys have the best juice, seriously. Let me first tell you that. Ha!
I didn't mean to say it that way! Aha, that made me giggle. But no, it's a station, 103.1 the Buzz, and it's only in Florida I guess. iTunes picked it up. Best station ever. Sure beats Georgia's. : /
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PostSubject: Re: What are You Listening to Right Now?   Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:42 am

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Haha! You guys have the best juice, seriously. Let me first tell you that. Ha!
I didn't mean to say it that way! Aha, that made me giggle. But no, it's a station, 103.1 the Buzz, and it's only in Florida I guess. iTunes picked it up. Best station ever. Sure beats Georgia's. : /

Haha YEAH we do!

Oh, ok. Really, Georgia doesn't have good radio? I would assume not, especially now that Big Honkin Steve is off the air...

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PostSubject: Re: What are You Listening to Right Now?   Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:03 pm

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Oh, ok. Really, Georgia doesn't have good radio? I would assume not, especially now that Big Honkin Steve is off the air...

-Gary
Nope. We have really awkward stations in my opinion. We have southern rock which I'm tired of listening to, and pop music. I'm just tired of the monotonous music. It never changes. And we have rap. Which is probably the worst thing the state of Georgia could have listened to. It's horrible..
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